2006-02-06

Searching and searching...MySpace Extended Network

It seems a lot of people stumble upon my blog while searching for answers among other things. I shouldn't be surprised but I am, and I'll take a moment to answer/talk-about a few.

First, someone asked Ask.com: what is the myspace extended network?
Answer: Good question internet person! The MySpace Extended Network tells you if someone can be connected to you following a path of friends. And in almost every single case, every single person on MySpace is in your Extended Network thanks to the fact that you're friends with Tom. In conclusion, the MySpace Extended Network is a waste of time and tells you nothing. Please stop asking...

Second, a lot of people seem to be interested in MySpace vs. LiveJournal/TagWorld/etc. Let's put it this way, just because a lot of people use your site/software, it does not mean it's any good. Those sites are like the homepage craze of a few years ago, where everyone had a homepage to talk about their boring shitty lives. These sites have just given a different name to them and made them more socially acceptable. But we must not let this continue! Rise my fellow Internet intellectuals and something something!

Anyway, MySpace and the bunch are allowing everyone to post anything, and unsurprisingly, 99.9% of it is crap. If you're going to only communicate things that only interest close friends, keep it off the Web and talk about it over the phone or face-to-face or IM. I don't care if I sound elitist, but no one wants to hear a bunch of teenagers whine about their family or friends. And a few words I agree with, from Eric S. Raymond,
Give the audience a reason to care. Too many web pages are like tales told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. Do you want to be interesting? Then forget the graphics and the glitz. First and foremost, have something to say.



Update: Changed the title to include myspace extended network because it seems people are still heading to the MySpace vs. Tagworld page and blah.

31 comments:

Lj said...

I tried to find an answer to question what is "extended network". Assuming that this means that such person can be found through friends one has. I agree it is good idea (however not new) but seem to be bad implementation. Now. Now that you bring subject to light, let me try to remove "Tom" from the list of friends. This shall stop friendship through Tom.. Second the question is also how extended is extended network? I mean how many people away someone is? 3, 5 , 16?

Anonymous said...

your lame......no body's telling you to read the teenagers profiles..you have no life so you choose to read them...your weak

Rudolf said...

Anonymous: Hilarious. Learn to spell :) And you have no life if you're reading my blog *wink*

lj: The extended network extends throughout. I think they don't even check the network anymore. No matter which page you visit, that person is in your extended network.

Chuckk said...

Wow, that really is lame. Even if you're not friends with Tom, and I don't know why anyone would be, someone you're friends with or someone they're friends with is friends with the idiot. The only people that wouldn't be true for are those who signed up before Tom's profile and never signed on again. Lame!

Eddy said...

I've just joined MySpace, and even before I had an account, it was saying people were in my extended network when I viewed their profiles...
Now that I have an account, I've deleted Tom, so I currently have no friends at all, and its STILL saying everyone is in my extended network!
So it seems they just stick that on everyone's profile now without even checking... or perhaps it just hasn't realised that I've deleted Tom yet...
Surely it would be a lot more usefull if it actually checked, ignored Tom when checking, and showed how many people away they are, as lj said.

stikshittotheman said...

hey...welp i don't think you should criticize shit so much i mean why do you care what people post on the internet??? shit has flaws...deal with it... i'm guessing your like some middle age shlub who's pissed at the world cuz all he know's how to do is computer shit and no one every realized you "true potential" shut up...get a life...and before you try to blame me for caring i don't. just like to here my hypocritical self talk... maybe i'm wrong... i hope i am and maybe your a petaphile who's using spryware right now to prayon inocent kids...w/e fuck you either way dude and thanks for the tid bit on myspace.

stikshittotheman said...

you're a hypocrital bastard...thanks for the myspace advice....need to stop ragginng on people tho oyu obviously are doing the exact thing you are criticizing...bastard

Rudolf said...

Dude, I'm an 19 year old programmer. I prefer knowing computer stuff over going to parties and getting wasted out of my mind.

If you don't criticize things how else will things get better? Oh, maybe you should stop saying bad things about the President of the US because he might invade your country next. Maybe we should shut up about all the flaws in Internet Explorer.

I haven't had my time to shine yet, so I'm not pissed off about wasting my potential or anything like that. I'm pissed off that people will accept garbage software and websites like Microsoft Office and MySpace.

MySpace doesn't do actual social networking, it's just a giant teenage-angst filled cesspool. Technology-wise it's trash. Social-wise, it's also trash.

Anonymous said...

I totally understand that for someone who knows more about computers and programming would find major errors in myspace but for someone who doesnt it's a really easy way of having a webpage where you can be creative. if there is a way to make it better then do it because you'd earn billions, the concept is great, and as much as people frown upon it, there is a lot of support backing it.

Rudolf said...

As I said, technology-wise, MySpace is trash. You have to use obscene HTML hacks just to get the profile looking better. Compared to other sites, MySpace really doesn't offer much. If you want to be creative with your website, you should host your own or use a better tool like Google Page Creator. I'll do a review of website building tools in the next post.

Anonymous said...

Interesting, thank you for providing a decent answer to the question. :)

I wonder if eventually they will delete the "extended network" table.

Anonymous said...

Just a random thought?

Socially, MySpace isn't neccesarily trash, even if technologically it is. I have friends overseas and in different states that I can barely keep in contact with without MySpace. ;]

But yeah, extended networks have confused me for a while. I thought that they were something of the sort that you described them as. Thanks!

Anonymous said...

wow you are lame.
who reads what teenagers say?
if you don't care, don't read it.
and not all people live in the same area. sometimes calling results
in long distance charges

dude. you have no life

Anonymous said...

funny thing is, even if you dont even have a myspace page (like myself) you can have people in your extended network...

Anonymous said...

Myspace can be a cesspool, but only for those who let it be. I agree myspace can be annoying with its errors and friendwhores who want to add you just because, or people who post annoying shit. But it can be a useful tool to keep in contact with real friends, people you couldnt usually contact at random times or tell random things. I happen to be up late at night a lot, and myspace helps me look less crazy, because getting a comment from someone whenever you sign on is a lot more normal than getting a phone call at 4 am because the person is awake and just wanted to ask you what you're doing that weekend.

Daniel said...

"Dude, I'm an 19 year old programmer. I prefer knowing computer stuff over going to parties and getting wasted out of my mind."

Bull shit. You'd go if you got invited, and you knew the invitation wasn't soley out of pity's sake.

Anonymous said...

I must say myspace is helpful with keeping in touch with friends but the interface is argghhhh
maybe you're nose is going red one day rudolf and you create something which can really express ones ideas and feelings not like those bloody skins on myspace which are f** drag to tweak!

Anonymous said...

I Know this post is old, but i just have to say that you are a cunt

Bud Macintosh said...

Which brings me to Tila Tequila... can we execute her and her like, by chance? Fuckin' bubbly little cunt makin' millions on bein' a bumbling slut... (guess I'm just jealous that I can't do that) lol

Anonymous said...

If you have a problem with myspace, don't sign up.
Whining about myspace is like saying: "Ugh, it really hurts when I stand in a bucket of boiling water with a rabid monkey tied to my head, someone do something please, it's so annoying"
I love myspace, what better way to engage in the pleasures of public narcissism!
Add me! www.myspace.com/so_london
Or my couple-profile www.myspace.com/robandeva

Hahaha, I don't have to not be on myspace to see it's silly and juvenile, I can be silly and juvenile along with it, have fun, and live in peace and love with the world and it's internet networking exhibitionistic ego sites!

Anonymous said...

asshat

Honest Joe said...

MySpace is also a great way to promote your music if you unfortunately can't be a geek because you're already quite busy with other things. To me it offers the basic things a bandpage needs and above that it's all free. And noone ever forced me to read any teenagers stupid profile. So, thanks for the answer on the 'extended network' question, I came here for that, however I also think that you are a dick.

Flaze said...

Thanks for the entertaining explanation :-) Although your prejudices have been thoroughly dissected and reproached, your explanation cannot be faulted. I especially liked the conclusion that the extended network is essentially a waste of time :-D.

Of course you're right that most myspace bloggage is a waste of time for anyone in pursuit of knowledge, but insofar as it is part of the transference of society into the online realm it serves as a reminder that humans are not the aesthetes some would imagine us to be. Moreover, not all blogs are unintelligent: my own, for example, is most cerebral (;-)) although you would not look there for analytic knowledge.

The internet is a vast resource and as such is not exclusive to paticular information. Of course from your point of view if searches could be formulated so as to eliminate undesirable results (possibly whiny subject-dominated blogs made for friends) then everyone would be happier, but their REMOVAL would constitute a form of repression and prohibition that undercuts the concepts of liberalism and freedom.

Anonymous said...

"99.9% crap"...
look on the bright side...your blog and Myspace have something in common.

Loco Ulysses said...

I too wonder how long the chain for my extended network can be. Considering that any two people in the world could be connected by a chain of six friends or less (according to small world theory), any connection with more than one intermediate would probably be fairly meaningless.

Anonymous said...

I think the extended network is the extension of the extended extentionized connection network that is networked through the extension and causes much tention in the network.

Anonymous said...

i have a question...yes the extended network really means nothing but a lot of people have changed t to say what ever they want. well some people also put banners over what they have written so you cant see it, my question is how do you get the banner to disappear so you can read their "extended network" box??

you can tell they have things written because when the page doesnt load quickly you can see it but cannot read it quick enough. any way to see it??? help??

Mike T. said...

Throw this between style tags, and problem solved.

.extendedNetwork {display: none}

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danielsmw said...

Well... I guess I'm a few years late on this one, but I read it and I have to comment. I'm sure that two and a half years later, nobody will care, but I really want to defend Rudolf here and point out that I don't think he's trying to make any personal complaints about having to read teen angst posts, so telling him that he doesn't have to do so it a moot point.

The more obviously closed-minded people on this comment thread need to realize that sometimes people examine things from a greater perspective than making a personal complaint.

Funnily enough, I'm now sitting here commenting on this thread as a 19 (rounded up) programmer who writes documentation for Fedora instead of going to parties - not as a consequence of invitation, but of wanting to do something better for myself, my life, and other people.

I apologize to anyone who might get an email alert for this post. :-)

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